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    #41
    Hi guys... I'm leaning on the Innova na because of you guys... =) Thank you so very much for all your comments, suggestions and opinions.. I really appreciate it a lot! About the Innova 'J' variant, kasi the price is 768k.. is it possible to include a power window and power lock? Kc the Innova 'E' costs 865k.. which is a huge difference.. and I just want to have a power window and power lock.. =) How much do you think Toyota will charge me for adding those 2 features?

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    #42
    Been thinking of that too bro, thanks you observed that as well. Pero if you think about the resale value, people think of the model and not the accesories you put in. Since you buy J varaint, when you sell it's still a J variant. Any commnets guys?

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    #43
    looking at what the isuzu sales rep is doing to get the sale just shows you that its not selling very well since the innovas introduction, more people are buying the innova for a reason diba, its way better than the isuzu in most aspects. Plus the better resale value in the future.
    i read somewhere that the innova has water channels under the engine that would make it run under certain flood conditions.

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    #44
    Although nagagandahan ako sa new face ng XUV!!!

    May bumili na ng innova dito sa office namin, kita ko sa parking lot at nilapitan ko. first time i saw it close up. its more upscale looking than an AUV... although parang mas matibay ang AUV sa rough roads natin sa pinas

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by cardo
    ... although parang mas matibay ang AUV sa rough roads natin sa pinas
    I think it's based on the same flatform(IMV ba?) used in Hilux and Hiace so I guess that it's also durable.

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    #46
    eto na lang pag-asa ng isuzu to match the innova...
    the isuzu axiom. kaya lang U.S. model to. bakit kaya di dalhin dito sa pinas.
    kelan kaya lalabas dito yung isuzu MU-7 (thai model)?

    toyota has tipped the balance in their favor this time with their innova. just like the last time they did when they came out with the toyota revo in 1998 (yata) which totally wiped out the opposition from mitsu adventure and isuzu hilander.
    it took isuzu 3 years (2001) before they came out w/ their introduced the isuzu panther/crosswind. bakit kaya laging nahuhuli ang introduction ng models ng isuzu dito sa pinas? last november pa nilabas yung isuzu mu-7 sa thailand.

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    #47
    weather-weather lang yan, hehehe. ngayon sa innova, pero kung lalabas na ang mga bago ng mistu and isuzu mapapang iba na naman ang gusto ng masa. same attention sa mga old auv variants noon.

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    #48
    I been to that situation comparing Isuzu, toyota, Mitusbishi, I suggest do some drive test and also some research I'm sure it will influence you on a right decision I also consider yung reklamo ni kelvin nothing personal with Isuzu, I was just wondering duon sa offer na bakit they're offering a discounted rustproof duon sa car eh bago pa naman yun. Innova looks good, Saka yung engine kaya lang napansin ko sa demo unit here sa Megamall a week ago yung Ventilation ng Aircon ang Lapit sa Ceiling, baka later on dumihin ang Ceiling noon, and sana naman hindi kalampagin. Take your time, mahirap din mag dispose pag nandyan na yan.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by strayWOLF
    Hi guys... I'm leaning on the Innova na because of you guys... =) Thank you so very much for all your comments, suggestions and opinions.. I really appreciate it a lot! About the Innova 'J' variant, kasi the price is 768k.. is it possible to include a power window and power lock? Kc the Innova 'E' costs 865k.. which is a huge difference.. and I just want to have a power window and power lock.. =) How much do you think Toyota will charge me for adding those 2 features?

    toyota will charge you a fortune to install an original power window and door locks.. baka umabot ng 35K yan..

    meron nagsabi sa akin na mga 9K ang 2-front power windows (generic brand) sa banawe.. yung doorlock is less than 2K (generic brand din)..

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by epic
    Sabi ng casa, Innova can withstand 24" of flood water, cause the location of air intake ng air filter plus the ECD or CRD engine computer ata ay located in a higher position inside the van so hindi ito madali mabasa.... yan ang sabi saking lang
    BR,
    epic ;)
    i think both the crosswind and revo diesel can also withstand more than 24" of flood water dahil wala naman itong computer box and as long as above water ang air intake..

    sa revo gas (1.8/2.0) .. meron computer box/ecu located inside the dashboard na ka-level ng passenger seat (knee area)

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    Innova's styling just gets a little bit of getting used to. If Isuzu brings in the MU-7, I think it would cost more than the Innova cuz base on the pics, its based on a D-Max, how much does a base model D-Max cost? Close to a Million Bucks right? If it can't match Innova's price it won't be able to compete.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by lma1911
    ...napansin ko sa demo unit here sa Megamall a week ago yung Ventilation ng Aircon ang Lapit sa Ceiling, baka later on dumihin ang Ceiling noon, and sana naman hindi kalampagin...
    Napansin ko din sa demo unit na yun yung 60/40 split-fold seats sa second row, kaya lang yung 40% ng upuan eh nasa kaliwa! WEIRD layout, if you ask me.

    Since dito sa Pilipinas we pick up people on the right side of the road, vehicle ingress and egress is usually via the right side. The Innova's current configuration would mean that you would have to displace more people on the second row if you want access to and from the third row seats. Very unnatural and inconvenient. I suspect Toyota carried over the entire Kijang Innova design without adapting the seats for Philippine use.

    Dapat inilagay ng Toyota yung 40% ng second row seat sa kanan. Tulad ng, hmmm--Adventure! Tama, Adventure na lang!
    Last edited by Bogeyman; March 2nd, 2005 at 09:58 PM.

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman
    Dapat inilagay ng Toyota yung 40% ng second row seat sa kanan. Tulad ng, hmmm--Adventure! Tama, Adventure na lang!
    Am about to point out the Adventure's right placed 60-40 second rows when I read your comment...

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    #54
    un innova medyo hindek o type because parang magiging fx din to sa susunod sa nakikita ko.hehehe.. opinion ko lang ah

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Innova's styling just gets a little bit of getting used to. If Isuzu brings in the MU-7, I think it would cost more than the Innova cuz base on the pics, its based on a D-Max, how much does a base model D-Max cost? Close to a Million Bucks right? If it can't match Innova's price it won't be able to compete.
    most likely magiging 1.1m+ ang MU-7 ... the current price of the d-max base 4x2 M/T is already 960k.

    the innova is great for people looking for a family car. If I had kids, I'd rather get this than a sedan... its more roomy and it avoids those quarels betw kids hehehe. pede mo pa isama si inay at si inday hehe. and it's similarly priced to an mid-level compact sedan as well! toyota has created a new segment for itself and no one can challenge it. wa-is! siguro ang closest rivals nya would be the entry level AUV's mitsu and isuzu has. pero they all have bench seats on the rear. and the innova does'nt have the common AUV look
    Last edited by cardo; March 3rd, 2005 at 10:33 AM.

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by cardo
    siguro ang closest rivals nya would be the entry level AUV's mitsu and isuzu has. pero they all have bench seats on the rear.
    FYI, the Mitsubishi Adventure already has front-facing third row seats since last year (except on the GL variant).

    EDIT: Pati nga pala third row seats ng Isuzu Sportivo front-facing na. Hindi nga lang split-folding.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; March 3rd, 2005 at 01:18 PM.

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    #57
    ah ok! iba na pala config ng adventure... it seems as though this car has been in production for ages.

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    #58
    dpat may all-new adventure na!

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    #59
    Although 90% ng previous thread ay suggestion ang Innova, I would still suggest that you try both to drive and feel the difference. All we an say are comments and inputs, but the real thing lies in your heart. Ika nga, kung ano ang itinitibuk ng puso mo, 'yon ang sundin mo. By the way, I've seen the new face of the XT, and it just looks good to me compared to Innova.

    OT: somebody mentioned earlier in this thread that Crosswind engines have timing chains, diba timing gear dapat?

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    #60
    after 3-6 months or a year lalagyan ng add ons (body cladding) ang innova para maging brusko like the XUV hehehe

    tapos yung mga bumili nanaman

    kamot ulo kasi kaagad bumili ng baby model lol

    parang ako sa xwind xto ko....rrrr after 2 months nilabas yung XUV...*!#!%%#*

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