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    #11
    In terms of performance, definitely the D-4D lump is torquier so this is perfect for stop and go, in-city driving. The VVTi lump has a higher top speed or is probably more comfortable at faster highway speeds. So it depends on your drive.

    Gotta say though, the 2.0L is sluggish at low speeds. The delay in the gas pedal does not help it, rather it emphasizes the lack of torque. If the D-4D issue from way back is no longer an issue, then I'd go for the D-4D.

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    #12
    Diesel Innova here. We own a Gasoline variant and may kalakasan sa gas and it feels sluggish....

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    #13
    Definitely mabagal ang VVTi esp. with A/T lalo na if you are used to torquey engines. Agree ako with bro IMm29, yung delay caused by an indecisive tranny and/or lack of torque when pressing the accelerator as usually seen when performing overtaking manuevers makes it rather hard to time one which can sometimes be dangerous as well.

    IMHO, the notion of D4D maintenance being significantly more expensive than VVTi is actually not that bad. Sure, it is more expensive but extra cost in regular maintenance caused by extra motor oil bought is pretty much minimal and can perhaps be regained by savings gotten by a full tank or two of diesel as compared to the VVTi and the superior performance should be very much worth it. And the D4D choking issue should not be an issue now, as it was mainly because of dirty diesel, and we just have to pick our stations to fill up if we want to be sure.

    Even if the Innova's D4D engine is lacking in horses, it is more than punchy enough for normal family use in the occasional out of town trip, as, unlike the Carens, it was not designed nor destined for the Autobahn anyway. And if you really want to squeeze more performance out of it, there are quite a lot of mods available and you don't have to spend too much on them.

  4. #14
    An intercooler and some more turbo boost can do miracles for the Innova...

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    #15
    go diesel! hindi ka magsisisi!

  6. #16
    Diesel is the way to go. Forget the gasoline-UNDERpowered Innova.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by zap.FREEDOM View Post
    sabi nga daw, matipid nga yung innova d4d, my friend owns a toyota innova v d4d, 500php can reach from laguna to manila back and forth, parang isuzu crosswind din e, may sobra pa,
    yun nga lang medyo may kabigatan ng konti pagdating sa maintenance ang 2KD-FTV common rail diesel kasi, unlike gas the 1TR-FE its easy to maintain at cheap ang parts, the downside is high cost of gasoline at medyo may kalakasan mag-consume dahil mabigat ang kaha para sa makina.
    Same here. Yun Innova J Gas namin sa city driving nakuha ko 6-7 km/h per liter. Sa long drive nasa 13.5 km/h per liter.

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    In terms of performance, definitely the D-4D lump is torquier so this is perfect for stop and go, in-city driving. The VVTi lump has a higher top speed or is probably more comfortable at faster highway speeds. So it depends on your drive.

    Gotta say though, the 2.0L is sluggish at low speeds. The delay in the gas pedal does not help it, rather it emphasizes the lack of torque. If the D-4D issue from way back is no longer an issue, then I'd go for the D-4D.
    *IM29: In my personal experience, nag karga ako ng 95 RON gas and nag improve at nag response siya agad. Minsan baka sa gas kasi parati ako nagka karga ng Unleaded.Ano masasabi mo?

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by cripple_rooster View Post
    Diesel is the way to go. Forget the gasoline-UNDERpowered Innova.
    Sa 2.0 is not considered as underpowerd. Siguro 1.6 or 1.8 Engine maiintindihan ko pa. Kaya mukhang underpowerd kasi mabigat ang kaha niya.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by drich_enriquez View Post
    Sa 2.0 is not considered as underpowerd. Siguro 1.6 or 1.8 Engine maiintindihan ko pa. Kaya mukhang underpowerd kasi mabigat ang kaha niya.
    Even the 2.0L is not so suitable as the D4-D, for this reason I say it's underpowered. Actually it's more matter of torque than power...

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