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    #11
    Yes, design flaws really. Its not isolated to ZD30s in our market as this was encountered also in other markets back then.

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    #12
    I'd suggest you get the Pajero as well. Aside from the aforementioned engine problems with early model Patrol, it is also pretty hard to maneuver in tight streets and mall parking. The Pajero's size would be more reasonable, not to mention that as already mentioned, the Patrol doesn't have much interior room despite the huge girth which somewhat defeats the reason of getting such a big car.

    The Pajero uses an old school diesel, lesser electronics to get headaches about. If you want more performance out of it, you can do the turbo washer trick many Pajero owner Tsikoteers have been doing and there are many other performance parts available as well.

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    IPatrol, it is also pretty hard to maneuver in tight streets and mall parking. The Pajero's size would be more reasonable, not to mention that as already mentioned, the Patrol doesn't have much interior room despite the huge girth which somewhat defeats the reason of getting such a big car.
    The Pajero is cursed with a poor turning radius so parking in tight streets requires several maneuvers just as well.

    Pansinin mo lang before kung ilang Pajero ay may gasgas sa mga bumper ends niya (front and back). :D

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    #14
    so the patrols with ZD30 engines are the ones with this particular design flaws? i liked the brute stance of the patrol, but i guess its stance alone is not worth the extra headache and worry that i'll have if ever i choose to buy one.

    looks like pajero fieldmaster is the popular choice among car enthusiasts, what is its FC figures? city and highway driving. thanks guys!

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by jei View Post
    so the patrols with ZD30 engines are the ones with this particular design flaws? i liked the brute stance of the patrol, but i guess its stance alone is not worth the extra headache and worry that i'll have if ever i choose to buy one.

    looks like pajero fieldmaster is the popular choice among car enthusiasts, what is its FC figures? city and highway driving. thanks guys!
    with me Pajero FM A/T, city/traffic- 7-7.5km to a liter... kapag expressway kaya hanggang 9-9.5km to a liter. hindi matipid pero hindi rin naman malakas.sakto lang.

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by junerski View Post
    with me Pajero FM A/T, city/traffic- 7-7.5km to a liter... kapag expressway kaya hanggang 9-9.5km to a liter. hindi matipid pero hindi rin naman malakas.sakto lang.
    thanks sir! i think that it's actually pretty thrifty for its size and class. what are the things that i have to check when i test drive one?

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    #17
    What Patrol? Safari Y60 GQ?

    If that's the model you're refering to, pound for pound, Patrol ako over the Pajero.

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    #18
    Pajero? Check the vehicle papers as it was a former stats leader in terms of auto theft...

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    #19
    *lowslowbenz- no sir, i'm considering the fifth generation patrol Y61.
    *otep- how about in the car itself sir?

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    #20
    I had a gen II pajero before i went to the patrol. It was a 96 model and nothing failed on that thing. It was reliable. Just ride and drive.

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