Mitsubishi Fuzion VS Toyota Innova

[O!lman]

Innova's vvti engine has better fuel economy than the fuzion.

[washburn]

vvti nalang, bakit kaya di nalang nila ginawang mivec? hmm

[drey]

Sir Washburn,

The price of the Fuzion will instantly rise up kung MIVEC ito. Sana lagay nalang sila ng DiD na engine.

[Bogeyman]

Yung kapitbahay namin who works for Mitsubishi Motors just sold his Mitsubishi Lancer GLX, kasi bibigyan na sila ng Fuzion. Fuel consumption won't be a problem, since sagot na rin ng kumpanya ang gasoline allowance nila.

Lucky guy. :D

[drey]

Sya nga pala...

I saw a lot of Fuzion's running in Las Piñas.

[beebs]

yung tail light ng fuzion parang old starex imho. innova pa rin

[Gumusut_Amige]

got an innova vvti 2.0 a/t, with 9.2km/li sa mix hway and city driving = far better FC

Originally Posted by altec
the review says the vvti innova has slightly better fuel economy (8.8km/liter) than the fuzion (6.4km/liter).

[Titleist983k]

I really don't like the Fuzion, sablay sa looks and product flexibility. I've been driving my innova daily from Las-pinas to cavite for 20 months now and already have 34tkms. The innova is a good choice, very low maintenance. Of course vehicles like the innova are not bought because of its looks but for its practicality and I have to say it is doing what I intended it to do in the first place. The Fuzion will not rival any vehicle in the market. I have the Innova G 2.5l Diesel M/T, I usually drive loaded and quite hard on the pedal but I still get 11.3 - 12 kms/l

[Bogeyman]

The Fuzion looks more suited to go against the Avanza; it has slightly larger dimensions, so it supposedly seats more (8 people compared to the Avanza's 7).

But even then, the usual issues still remain -- greatest assets are in features, biggest drawbacks are the lack of diesel/stickshift options and lousy fuel mileage.

[carbuncle]

mas ok pa yung super sports na adventure

[Hank]

Not much of a choice. I think the Fuzion (in Black) would be a much better choice if only they sold CRDi models and its high time they phase out those ugly Adventures. I'd rather go for the Sante Fe over the Innova if Mitsubishi would never fit a CRDi M/T on the Fuzion. Hyundai has better CRDi Diesel engines than Toyota after all. Mitsubishi would be probably as good, after all, Mitsubishi gave them some assistance years back... who'd have thought that Hyundai would end up with better engines and sales (selected categories) than Mitsu as based on the number of new Hyundai's Vs. Mitsubishi's on the road today? By the way, does anyone have the figures for Philippine car sales by car brand and category?

Yung 2.4 engine ng fusion, pareho kaya yan nung 2.4 na engine ng gen1 outlander? Na experience ko na gamitin medyo matagal yung gen1 outlander ng sister-in-law ko, antakaw sa gas, at di rin naman powerful, mas OKs pa yung CRV na gen2 ko dati. Baka kasi AWD? Nagkaron tuloy ako ng impression na "low-tech" at nahuhuli ang engine technology ng Mitsu, kasi nga, antaas ng displacement, baba rin naman HP, takaw pa Gas. Parang baliktad na achieve nila! Overall, tingin ko, "huli sa panahon" ang engine tech ng Mitsu, ganun na rin ang Nissan!

OT: Wala pa ngang CRDi diesel ang Nissan ata!

[ambekam]

Nakakapagtaka nga ang mitsubishi kasi yung kanilang competitors eh nakapag develop na ng CRDI. Pero meron din naman sila ng DHD engine in the pickup category di ba? They should have thought of a follow up on newer technology based on their adventure. Sa panahon ngayon ang madalas pinaguusapan ang diesel engine na tahimik at malakas humatak. And it runs like a gas engine.

How about putting the 4d56 engine in the fuzion with a turbo. tiyak mabenta ito. Yung kanilang Delica van na surplus naman eh me turbo nga eh.

[drey]

That would harm the Adventure sales. That's why the Fuzion is exclusively gasoline. Putting a MIVEC from the Grandis would make the price whopping expensive. I hope they give it a 5/6 speed tranny nalang for better FC.

Pero one owner here in tsikot claims that his Fuzion gets 7-8 km/l with a light foot.

[hominid]

Kaya nga. They know what they are doing. Marami ngang me wish na me SUV sanang Strada based. Pero it would hurt their other SUVs.

[Fibbo]

That would harm the Adventure sales. That's why the Fuzion is exclusively gasoline. Putting a MIVEC from the Grandis would make the price whopping expensive. I hope they give it a 5/6 speed tranny nalang for better FC.

Pero one owner here in tsikot claims that his Fuzion gets 7-8 km/l with a light foot.

It's about the right time to phase out the Adventure. I could not imagine why Mitsubishi would resurrect it's older models instead of upgrading and improving them. If they want to reuse the older moulds and engines, they should create or assist a new cheaper brand like what Toyota did with Daihatsu... perhaps they should buy Sarao and sell the Adventure as the Sarao Labayan?

[drey]

Best seller kasi daw ang L300. Pera lang ata habol ng Mitsubishi. Not improving their own old cars for better safety, ride and versatility. So far, ang pagka-EURO 1 lang ng 4D56 ang nakita ko na improvement.

Such a poor manufacturer who hopes to become poorer. Forgive if im like this, ganito lang talaga ako when I receive more bad news from them. Heck, Im a down to Earth fan and I even help sales agents to sell their cars. It's just, I can't see the company helping itself.

Like what I've said, I'm sick of hoping and I don't know if my prayers are doing any good. Ganyan ako ka-down to Earth sa kanila. Kulang nalang i-pray over eh. Tapos sabihin, you bad demons from Mitsubishi, Get out in the name of Christ! hehehehe... :hysterical:

[Fibbo]

I don't like your joke... do be careful man! Anyway, Mitsubishi helped Hyundai and Proton during the nineties. Look at Hyundai now! They're a lot better and JD Powers attested to this. Have a Getz CRDi and an old 8 yr. old Starex and they're both working well. Not so much problems with them. Mitsubishi is lucky Hyundai hasn't started making trucks just yet.

Best seller kasi daw ang L300. Pera lang ata habol ng Mitsubishi. Not improving their own old cars for better safety, ride and versatility. So far, ang pagka-EURO 1 lang ng 4D56 ang nakita ko na improvement.

Such a poor manufacturer who hopes to become poorer. Forgive if im like this, ganito lang talaga ako when I receive more bad news from them. Heck, Im a down to Earth fan and I even help sales agents to sell their cars. It's just, I can't see the company helping itself.

Like what I've said, I'm sick of hoping and I don't know if my prayers are doing any good. Ganyan ako ka-down to Earth sa kanila. Kulang nalang i-pray over eh. Tapos sabihin, you bad demons from Mitsubishi, Get out in the name of Christ! hehehehe... :hysterical:

[drey]

I don't like your joke... do be careful man! Anyway, Mitsubishi helped Hyundai and Proton during the nineties. Look at Hyundai now! They're a lot better and JD Powers attested to this. Have a Getz CRDi and an old 8 yr. old Starex and they're both working well. Not so much problems with them. Mitsubishi is lucky Hyundai hasn't started making trucks just yet.

Well, its not a joke. This is just my share of being sad about Mitsubishi. Like what you've just said, "Mitsubishi is lucky Hyundai hasn't started making trucks just yet." Well, that's a threat to Mitsubishi, what happens if they did? Hyundai is also building trucks imo and tanks. And can you see Mitsubishi moving? As a fan, they're not.

Let's summarize this up...
1) Gen. 2.5 Pajero - still sold for 1.8M!!!!! Let me guess, 3 units a month per dealer? Chances of having it on your shopping list isn't going to be more than 50% because the competition is getting harder and harder. The Everest, Santa Fe, Fortuner... All of which, better technology, better spec under 1.5M.

2) L300 - Best seller, a buy and forget vehicle. Quite good kasi it still sells like hot cake so no need to pull of the line. They just have to improve it of course with the demands of every Manila driver. I see a lot of suspensions bagsak na. The kalampag should have also been improved since I don't see any improvements at all. I'll give it siguro another year to observe in the new models.

3) Montero Sport - launched in year 1992. When was it introduced here? 2006 or 2005... Now its currently unavailable daw.

4) Fuzion - No diesel where the majority of consumers needs a diesel.

5) Adventure - still good and sell like hot cakes. At least its improving every-face lift. Pero sooner or later, mawawalan sila ng idea of what things to add to the trim level.

6) Space Gear - again, only gas version available and its pretty damn expensive!!! 1.2M! Gosh, a Starex is better, 5 year warranty pa + a CRDi already! Itong Space Gear na ito, di pa kasing loaded compared to Taiwan spec Space Gear.

Now, I can't believe Mitsubishi hasn't put a reflection in this. Why should I be scared, even Mitsubishi's President Osamu Masuko said, Mitsubishi is the loser of all the booming manufacturers of Japan. For me, its really a big deal. :cry:

It's about the right time to phase out the Adventure.

By the way, I have news for you. The Adventure will still be going into the showrooms.

I could not imagine why Mitsubishi would resurrect it's older models instead of upgrading and improving them. If they want to reuse the older moulds and engines, they should create or assist a new cheaper brand like what Toyota did with Daihatsu... perhaps they should buy Sarao and sell the Adventure as the Sarao Labayan?

+1, I agree. But I don't think it's that easy to make another brand.

As for Mitsubishi, sorry... I will just keep on hoping. And sana...

[drey]

Btw, I notice they're moving when the New L200 came... Pero parang nawala ang momentum nila since na launch ang Fuzion.

[mitsiboy]

in fairness to mitsubishi grabe na inimprove nila in just a year!dati ang ok lng yta na model nla was the grandis..models like the old pajero,old outlander,strada, adventure were just not enough.it was an uphill clilmb against modern competitors. but now with the intro of the latest models, i think mitsu is back and mas lalakas pa cla with the upcoming 2008 lancer which i think will be a hit!depende sa pricing dn.

short comparo btween mitsu 1 year ago and now:

1. old strada-> 2007 strada which is no.1 in total pickup sales this year with a 40% market share.
2. old pajero-> 2007 pajero with di-d and mivec v6!pila to
3. old outlander-> 2007 outlander mivec 2.4 and 3.0 v6!pila dn..fully loaded and resonable price
4. 2007 fuzion- medyo madami na rn fuzion sa daan..good alternative at 1.1m
5. old adventure->2007 adventure with smoked lamps..value for money

personally i think grabe improvement with these 5 models..they can now compete and surpass the competition!and wait for the 2008 lancer!it will make some serious noise!