Hyundai Santa Fe eVGT or Montero Sport GTV

[godwhacker]

Tama po yan tuloy lang po at lawakan pa po ninyo ang pagkaunawa at tiyak mararating ninyo ang realization na experience is directly proportional sa time. Na kapag bago pa wala pang experience yan na maituturing, marami pang uncertainties so malaki ang risk ng failure, hindi pa proven na reliable.


Na drag na naman sa usapan ang 4D56 so ibig sabihin pala sa tanong ninyo ay high tech na rin ang 4D56? Pero antiquated? Ano po ba talaga?

Possible answer? The market for Monty is close to saturation kaya dagdagan konti ang apoy para superheated ulet….. and VGT is not yet the climax for the 4D56 meron pa ako dalawang nakikitang nakaline-up na possible improvement sa power and torque. Nakahold malamang dahil wala pang transmission na papayag magpakasal.


Sabi na rin ninyo na antiquated and 4D56 compared to the engine of your Sta Fe? So ano na po ngayon ang stand ninyo? 4D56 lang maraming sensors?


Mas dramatic siguro ang dating kung sabihin ng iba na ang tanda-tanda na pero may ilalakas pa pala. Besides, dramatic technology naman slogan ng mother company supporting and providing technology for the MMC.

Napansin ko lang po na mas magaling pa kayo sa mitsu? Hindi po ba mabenta ang mga sasakyan na gumagamit ng 4D56? Hindi po ba nag eevolve ang 4D56 at sumasang-ayon sa pangangailangan ng panahon? Saka antiquated - too old to be useful na ba ang 4D56?

Parang napapaisip tuloy ako na kung sana pinalitan lang ang 4D56 ng ibang alpha-numeric code ay malamang Monty ang sasakyan ninyo?
Mahirap po talaga tanggapin ang idea na since bago, there is a tendency that some of the component could be like a ticking time bomb. At wala pa tagala nakakaalam kung repairable or disposable ang makina dahil wala pang may nakakita ng laman-loob.


Good then

But still hindi pa rin ganap na proven ang makina… dahil bago pa rin… sinusulat pa lang ang history.


You are welcome.

I'll just narrow it to a few more words rather than perpetuating this. Magkaiba po ang stand natin. You are pessimistic towards Hyundai but I am an optimist and a risk taker. Nasa TS na po kung ano talaga pipiliin nya. My hope is he can be enlightened to make a sound decision out of the posts here bias man o hindi. May the best car wins.

[Aslan]

Dahil may ibang kinababaliwan...

Lithium and rare earth metal mining, Lithium-ion-batteries, Permanent Magnet Motors, Nuclear Power Plants, Wind Turbines, Solar Panels, Smart Grid and Plug-in Electric Vehicles. Its going on Mitsu-wide

Turning point... could be the middle-east wide conflict at temporarily magkaka-ubusan ng supply ng crude oil.

First implementation... Tokyo SWITCH smart grid project.

Followed by.... hmmmmm Europe France, UK or the Netherlands? Alin nga ba sa kanila may pinaka maraming Nuclear PP at Wind turbines.

Philippines?... balik tayo sa kalesa palakasan na ng kabayo usapan as in literal na kabayo... just kidding.

Sorry for the OT.

at ngayon..earthquake hits Tokyo..could Nuclear Power plant prevents it..hehe..joke..back to topic na lang tayo..CRDI engine of Hyundai and Mitsu..

[Ry_Tower]

at ngayon..earthquake hits Tokyo..could Nuclear Power plant prevents it..hehe..joke..back to topic na lang tayo..CRDI engine of Hyundai and Mitsu..

^Actually SF vs MS as a car rather than the engine lang.

^^Also IMHO, hindi dapat may the best car win. May the TS make the right choice based on his needs/preferences para no regrets di ba. hehe But based on his posts, mas bagay sa kanya SF.

[Aslan]

^Actually SF vs MS as a car rather than the engine lang.

^^Also IMHO, hindi dapat may the best car win. May the TS make the right choice based on his needs/preferences para no regrets di ba. hehe But based on his posts, mas bagay sa kanya SF.

I agree..sa total car package, SF ang mas bagay for his needs.

[godwhacker]

I agree..sa total car package, SF ang mas bagay for his needs.

http://www.autoindustriya.com/car-re...fe-r-evgt.html

[cheng95]

Bakit kaya 5 years warranty yung HYUNDAI while 3 years lang yung MITSUBISHI kung mas reliable ang MS kesa SF as a whole??

[av8or5]

Bakit kaya 5 years warranty yung HYUNDAI while 3 years lang yung MITSUBISHI kung mas reliable ang MS kesa SF as a whole??

in my opinion, mas okay ang warranty of Hyundai. It's not that they are better or not. Eto logic ko sa warranty.

Ang Hyundai is 5 years or 100,000km while Mitsubishi or other brands is 3 years or 100,000km.

If you think about it, what is the average KM an owner would consume in a year. I am looking at average of 10,000-15,000KM in a year. So if given even 20,000KM/year, multiply it by 5 years, thats 100,000KM for Hyundai and sa Mitsubishi or other Makers, its 60,000km in three years. Sa akin, mas realistic ang ginawa ng Hyundai to spread the years with its KM equivalent.

business side, also good, kasi, you need to service your car sa dealership nila or else void nila warranty. owner side, bad, kasi..mas mahal sa casa mag paayos. overpricing.

[RBT]

yung mga SF owners kasi sinasabi na mag SF na lang kasi hindi mo naman kailangan ng kumbaga "real" off-roader kasi ganito ganyan lang naman yung daan na hindi naman kailangan ng high ground clearance kasi kaya naman ng SF ang mild off-roading pero you have to accept the fact na hindi naman talaga para sa ganung scenarios ang SF. na someday yun pa yung maging sira ng vehicle.

while...

yung mga MS owners naman sinasabi na hindi mo naman kailangan ng sobrang taas na horsepower at sobrang lakas na torque na meron ang SF kasi hindi ka naman laging makakapagmabilis dito sa mga daan sa pinas kasi limited at pangit yung surface except syempre sa mga expressways. kasi sige nga gamitin mo nga yang power ng SF mo, ibirit mo hanggang 200kph sa edsa. ewan ko lang.

sa city driving, sa singitan parang parehas lang din naman kasi the SF is wider than MS but ms is longer than SF so may disadvantages sila pareho.

reliability- parehas lang na wala tayong idea dyan. let us just see after 20 years.

TS: kaya let your heart decide kung ano man yung tinitibok niya kasi pera mo yan perang pinaghirapan. basta you won't go wrong with any of the two.

[arsen]

I'll just narrow it to a few more words rather than perpetuating this. Magkaiba po ang stand natin. You are pessimistic towards Hyundai but I am an optimist and a risk taker. Nasa TS na po kung ano talaga pipiliin nya. My hope is he can be enlightened to make a sound decision out of the posts here bias man o hindi. May the best car wins.

Yun lang naman ang gusto ko e-point out. There are risk and uncertainties in newly developed engine compared to the proven one that still delivers.

You are risk taker you took the risk that soon will be all yours once your warranty expire.

Hoping also that the TS is enlightened.

[Starex_Gold]

Dun ako sasama sa risk takers para maiba naman

Kasi nakakasawa kung paulit-ulit nalang eh. Ang dami nang naging 4D56 sa amin. 2 L300FB, 2 Starex, Pajero 90s, Montero Sport GLS 4X4 M/T.

I admit matibay sila. Pero kung yun at yun nalang, nakakasawa na.