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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by imperialv View Post
    For 1.8M, eto tanong ko for the TS? Do you really need a 4x4 on your daily drive? Kasi sa 1.8M top of line na ang mabibili mo sa Trailblazer at Montero which both have a 4x4 system. Whereas the SF 4x2 A/T lang.
    Actually, 4x4 is nice to have but not really my requirement. Santa Fe 4x2 is much more specced, Montero 4x2 AT is much cheaper, and TrailBZ 4x2 is only manual, so not really apple-to-apple when comparing these three. So, more of, which is a wiser buy right now given a budget of P1.8M.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post

    Actually, 4x4 is nice to have but not really my requirement. Santa Fe 4x2 is much more specced, Montero 4x2 AT is much cheaper, and TrailBZ 4x2 is only manual, so not really apple-to-apple when comparing these three. So, more of, which is a wiser buy right now given a budget of P1.8M.
    kung ako may 1.8M bibile na lang ako ng Kia Soul + suzuki SX4. ditch the diesel, milking cow na ngaun yan both ng casa as well as fuel stations. Sa casa with their required quarterly PMS else void warranty, sa fuel stations by providing dirty fuel coz of e sudden surge of PUvs.

    Sa gasoline suvs ngaun, every 7500km na ang PMS, pag synthetic 10000km pwede ba stretch. tapos ang mura lang ng engine oil coz gas engines require just 1 to 1.5L liters of engine oil. Sobra sobra na.

    Tas yun na nga dalawa pa tsikot mo, na may high ground clearance tas manuverable sa traffic, unlike the bulky and fat slow diesel suv. and since, mura lang acquisition, 2 insurance mo instead of 1 big limp some annually, a 1.8 M car can go 70K insurance annually.

    And the cars themselves, are insurance. Coz if one morning di nag-start ang diesel suv, wala na commute ka na. Whereas, kung dalwang mini-Suv, may backup car ka.

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    And also lastly, the smaller cars will save you from becoming big in the future, consider the smaller suv as your belt, pag di ka na kumakasya ibig sabihin lumalaki ka na, and therefore, you'll consume more resources, your expenses will grown exponentialky as your intake of fats, and lastly, magkarun ka ng diseases pag tanda mo, and therefore, instead of spending your retirement money for leisure and relaxation, you'll spend it on medicines and hospital bills

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post

    Sa gasoline suvs ngaun, every 7500km na ang PMS, pag synthetic 10000km pwede ba stretch. tapos ang mura lang ng engine oil coz gas engines require just 1 to 1.5L liters of engine oil. Sobra sobra na.
    Wow! 1-1.5L of Oil! Ano yan motor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    Wow! 1-1.5L of Oil! Ano yan motor?
    Si OB yan bro, wag kokontrahin. Master of all masters yan. :hysterical:


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    ^ :rofl: Master of all Masters. hahhaha

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    #26
    hehehe..natawa naman ako sa comment..

    go for MS or StaFe, then can be driven daily

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    #27
    SF (basta huwag HARI dealer para hindi every 3-months ang PMS), for ride comfort. yung MS and TB both pick-up based, although 5-link yung TB so malamang better ride. sabagay i-test drive mo naman. all other criteria same lang sila. sa toys, bago lang TB baka wala pa.

    MS, #1 sa carnap. better get a good insurance provider at baka swertehin ka imbes na may kotse e ire-refund na lang sa iyo ang insurance premium mo (ng people's general haha!) dami kasi sa kalsada madaling ibenta yung nakaw. parang jeep, dapat gawin mo 4 yung kabayo para maiba sa iba na 3 kabayo sa hood. o papinturahan mo ng weird color. fink.

    basta huwag ka bibili ng sorento (para konti lang kami).

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    kung ako may 1.8M bibile na lang ako ng Kia Soul + suzuki SX4. ditch the diesel, milking cow na ngaun yan both ng casa as well as fuel stations. Sa casa with their required quarterly PMS else void warranty, sa fuel stations by providing dirty fuel coz of e sudden surge of PUvs.

    Sa gasoline suvs ngaun, every 7500km na ang PMS, pag synthetic 10000km pwede ba stretch. tapos ang mura lang ng engine oil coz gas engines require just 1 to 1.5L liters of engine oil. Sobra sobra na.

    Tas yun na nga dalawa pa tsikot mo, na may high ground clearance tas manuverable sa traffic, unlike the bulky and fat slow diesel suv. and since, mura lang acquisition, 2 insurance mo instead of 1 big limp some annually, a 1.8 M car can go 70K insurance annually.

    And the cars themselves, are insurance. Coz if one morning di nag-start ang diesel suv, wala na commute ka na. Whereas, kung dalwang mini-Suv, may backup car ka.

    -----

    And also lastly, the smaller cars will save you from becoming big in the future, consider the smaller suv as your belt, pag di ka na kumakasya ibig sabihin lumalaki ka na, and therefore, you'll consume more resources, your expenses will grown exponentialky as your intake of fats, and lastly, magkarun ka ng diseases pag tanda mo, and therefore, instead of spending your retirement money for leisure and relaxation, you'll spend it on medicines and hospital bills

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    Huh? He must be on mushrooms

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    trailblazer, montero, sta fe are my ranking. trailblazer and montero dahil sa lubak lubak na kalsada natin at madalas na baha. pasok din naman lahat sa requirements. basta dont get sta fe from HARI.
    Kung hindi naman aabot ng 2M yung budget niya eh walang magagawa kundi kumuha sa HARI.

    Tsaka ano ba yung problema, yung Santa Fe ni HARI o si HARI?

    Kung bare yung Santa Fe ni HARI para sa'yo, 1.7M lang naman din kasi. Kung 2M ang Santa Fe ni HARI tapos 4X2 specs lang, tsaka mo sabihing put*ngina nila HARI. Kung yung PMS ang problema, wag kang sumunod sa 3 months na rule nila, takutin mo SA mo, anong magagawa niya at sino ba siya para sindakin ka tungkol sa PMS ng oto mo eh ikaw ang nagbabayad.

    BTT: Get the Trailblazer, maiba naman. Mukha naman mas okay yan sa Montero Sport eh. Or Santa Fe kung gusto mo talaga, sarap i-drive sa totoo lang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post

    Kung hindi naman aabot ng 2M yung budget niya eh walang magagawa kundi kumuha sa HARI.

    Tsaka ano ba yung problema, yung Santa Fe ni HARI o si HARI?

    Kung bare yung Santa Fe ni HARI para sa'yo, 1.7M lang naman din kasi. Kung 2M ang Santa Fe ni HARI tapos 4X2 specs lang, tsaka mo sabihing put*ngina nila HARI. Kung yung PMS ang problema, wag kang sumunod sa 3 months na rule nila, takutin mo SA mo, anong magagawa niya at sino ba siya para sindakin ka tungkol sa PMS ng oto mo eh ikaw ang nagbabayad.

    BTT: Get the Trailblazer, maiba naman. Mukha naman mas okay yan sa Montero Sport eh. Or Santa Fe kung gusto mo talaga, sarap i-drive sa totoo lang.
    O kaya mag intay na kyo ng bagong everest, sa Nov daw meron na prototype

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Kung hindi naman aabot ng 2M yung budget niya eh walang magagawa kundi kumuha sa HARI.

    Tsaka ano ba yung problema, yung Santa Fe ni HARI o si HARI?

    Kung bare yung Santa Fe ni HARI para sa'yo, 1.7M lang naman din kasi. Kung 2M ang Santa Fe ni HARI tapos 4X2 specs lang, tsaka mo sabihing put*ngina nila HARI. Kung yung PMS ang problema, wag kang sumunod sa 3 months na rule nila, takutin mo SA mo, anong magagawa niya at sino ba siya para sindakin ka tungkol sa PMS ng oto mo eh ikaw ang nagbabayad.

    BTT: Get the Trailblazer, maiba naman. Mukha naman mas okay yan sa Montero Sport eh. Or Santa Fe kung gusto mo talaga, sarap i-drive sa totoo lang.
    Di naman din bare yung 1.7m ng HARI dami din features. Chaka OK din presyo sakto lang. Dami din kasi nagrereklamo sa na sobrang mahal daw. Dahil siguro malayo ung price sa outgoing model. Ung same spec ng outgoing SF yung di tinuloy na GL trim ng all new SF na dapat 1.508m M/T. Kung A/T yun magiging around 1.6m, sakto lang din price vs. Outgoing model IMHO,

    Un lang BS ung 3 mo. Rule nila. Pero nasa SA din yan e. Me mga items ako na hindi ko sinusunod sa kia PMS and some outside installations sa sorento . Binibiro ko kung movovoid ba warranty? Ok lang daw hindi daw. Besides wala namang way para matrace ng HARI/CAC un on warranty claims. Nakadepende sa SA.hehe

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    #32
    How about PMS experience, can you pls share your good and bad experiences (and average costs) when getting your car sevices in
    -Chevrolet
    -Hyundai
    -Mitsubishi

    And also when making warranty claims. So far, I have no experience dealing with Chevrolet and Hyundai.

    Thanks.

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    #33
    Malamang the Chevy will impose the 3mos PMS rule else void warranty coz it's owned by TCCI aka HARI

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    Malamang the Chevy will impose the 3mos PMS rule else void warranty coz it's owned by TCCI aka HARI

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    Really? Is that true that TCCI is also HARI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post

    Really? Is that true that TCCI is also HARI?
    Yeah hindi mo ba alam yun. That's why wala sa Campi motor show ang hyundai and chevy. The Lee guy is a loner cunning businessman, na-beat nga nya ang Campi with his Hyundai business style. he's doing it now with Chevy, that's why chevy nowadays eh medyo maganda na ang patakbo.

    Yun na man 3 month rule eh money making schemes ng mga Casa, i just dont know why the Lee guy is allowing it. Kse kami we've been a Hyundai loyalist since 2k5, with 3 hyundais crdi to date. And we were never treated as such yun forced void warranty.

    I figure pakana ito ng mga dealers to make money.

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    Actually, i believe that's one reason why the trailblazer is overpriced. he owns the 2 contenders to the Montero and Fortuner which are the SF and the traiblazer. He doesn't wish to be top selling, he just adds the sales of both SF and Trailblazer and a price premium. So even if he is in third place sa mid Suv wars, profit naman sya derived from 2 Suvs. That's still market share but with comparable profits.

    Very smart noh?

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    #36
    How's the stock situation for Santa Fe and Trailblazer? Mahaba pa rin ba pila to get one?

    So far, wala pa kong nakikitang 2013 Santa Fe or 2013 Trailblazer sa kalye. Sa showrooms ko pa lang nakikita.

    I understand Montero is much easier to get one nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post
    How's the stock situation for Santa Fe and Trailblazer? Mahaba pa rin ba pila to get one?

    So far, wala pa kong nakikitang 2013 Santa Fe or 2013 Trailblazer sa kalye. Sa showrooms ko pa lang nakikita.

    I understand Montero is much easier to get one nowadays.
    i saw 1 yesterday and maganda siya. Dito nga pala yun sa alabang area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    i saw 1 yesterday and maganda siya. Dito nga pala yun sa alabang area.
    Which one yung nakita mo?

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    #39
    Quoting myself:
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    From Chevrolet Philippines
    The all new Chevrolet Trailblazer

    The All- New Chevrolet Trailblazer gets ready to blaze the Philippine roads with a trail of massive power and appeal

    Good things come to those who wait – and those holding out for the best SUV this October 2012 will get all that they ask for and more, the 7-seater diesel engine midsize SUV Chevrolet Trailblazer shall enter the local market with introductory price of P1,368,888

    The exclusive importer and distributor of Chevrolet automobiles and parts in the Philippines, The Covenant Car Company Inc. (TCCCI), picks up on the their commitment of launching only the best products as it gets ready to unveil the newest addition to its roster – the All-New Chevrolet Trailblazer, 7-seater Diesel engine SUV.

    Just imagine an SUV that comes complete with all the details that make Chevrolet automobiles some of the most sought after, award-winning vehicles in the world. At its core, it means having both Trailblazer variants outfitted with the latest technology of Duramax engines plus VGT CRDI. The Trailblazer 2.8L, 6-speed A/T guarantees a refined ride at a maximum power of 180HP and 470Nm of torque, while the 2.5L, 5-speed M/T offers up a steady horse power of 150 and 350Nm of torque that makes it just as efficient in handling any task that is asked of it – may it be on or off road or just about anything in between. Topping that list are above par SUV functions like Dynamic Brake Distribution, Anti-lock Brake System, Traction Control, Panic Brake Assist, Cornering Brake Control, Hill Descent, and Electronic Stability Control, for starters.

    The Trailblazer’s ability to go tough is demonstrated by the go-anywhere capabilities that have been incorporated into its features, amenities as well as design. A fully boxed reinforced frame for toughness; 800mm wading capability that gives you confidence to go further; the high stance suspension that evokes street cred; the electronic shift mode that works on the fly to shift from 4x4 to 4x2, the 3000kg towing capacity that encourages you to go beyond the usual; and the 8-crossmember ladder configuration that ensures every ride and drive is fun, smooth and comfortable sees this SUV through a multitude of scenarios with the family and friends without a hitch. The Trailblazer’s readiness to serve your every need – whether in towing heavy loads, hauling the whole family comfortably on long trips or getting through flooded and often treacherous roads, and gives anyone behind the wheel the confidence in being able to do the extras conveniently while in style. As Chevrolet Philippines’ President and Managing Director, Atty. Albert Arcilla, shared “The All-New Chevrolet Trailblazer is a midsize sports utility vehicle made for families who want power, capability, refinement and comfort. While the vehicle stance is undeniably stalwart, the new Trailblazer is also unmistakably refined with an upscale presence inside and out, outstanding ride/handling characteristics, and exceptional fuel efficiency. We believe that this vehicle is Chevrolet’s SUV heritage and performance taken to a whole new level”

    Like its pickup sibling - The Chevrolet Colorado, the All- New Chevrolet Trailblazer was exclusively designed, engineered, executed, and validated at GM do Brasil in Sao Paulo using GM’s global vehicle development processes – it is the second of a series of midsize truck offerings being developed by the Brazilian design and engineering operation.

    With the trailblazer, comfort, durability and style coexist! The details tell a success story through the 5-link rear suspension system with low NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) levels which promotes car-like handling and excellent ride comfort, leather-wrapped 7-seater for adult-sized occupants for an outstanding ride comfort and an air of elegance with multi-configurable seat options depending on cargo. Plus! The Trailblazer sports a pair of projector headlamp / LED tail lamp for energy saving and safety functions that double as another design feature to add to the full-sized SUV stance and are accentuated with powerdome hood design and signature dual-port grille that evokes ruggedness yet maintains its attractiveness in any angle. The 18-inch rims that command road presence, the flush-mounted roofrails for more cargo options, as well as an audio system that comes with steering-mounted controls and full-digital connectivity (USB, AUX and Bluetooth) for personalized sound-tripping whenever the mood strikes are just some of the amenities that encourages you to enjoy life beyond the expected.

    The team behind Chevrolet Philippines believes that this SUV is definitely worth the wait, especially to those who are looking to enjoy the many benefits of a world-class vehicle for a longer period of time. Introductory prices starts at P1,368,888 for the 4x2 manual transmission and P 1,718,888 for the 4x4 Automatic transmission. The package is bundled with a special 5-year warranty, 24/7 roadside assistance, the services of a dedicated 24/7 CHEVY hotline facility and a special 10,000 km PMS interval -- all in the name of providing the owner peace of mind and easy maintenance. The Trailblazers are set to blaze into town by mid-October so learn more about it by logging on to Chevrolet Philippines - The new Chevy lineup: Cruze, Aveo, Suburban, Camaro, add us on Facebook: Chevrolet Philipines or call the Chevy hotline at 846CHEV / 8462438 to know more reasons why you should wait or secure your reservations today!

    Ayan steer. Galing sa website ng Chevy Philippines mismo

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    Ayun! Per 10,000KM pms naman pala. For me, TB or SF nlng. Drive both cars then follow your heart.

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