2012 Toyota Hilux G 4x4 M/T vs 2012 Mitsubishi Strada 4x4 GLS Sport M/T

[trucker111]

so what's the verdict? keep it coming.
yes i'm looking at M/T, no A/T.

[trucker111]

Strada has 178ps*4000rpm and 400Nm*2000-2800rpm, while the Hilux has 163ps*3400rpm and 343Nm*1400-3200rpm. The Strada has noticeably higher numbers but we must also take note of the rpm at which it was achieved. The Hilux has ample power at all points of its rev range, while the Strada only picks up power once the turbo kicks in, and achieves peak output at a screaming 4000rpm. This would indicate that the Strada has a higher top speed, but the Hilux would do better in acceleration and hauling or towing, since theoretically speaking, with simple calculations, the Strada would only be making 151hp*3400rpm and 280Nm*1400rpm, but the numbers just climbed longer into the rev range.

pardon my ignorance... naka turbo din ba ang D4D on hilux g MT 4x4?

[OTEP]

Yep. Its turbocharged.

[aki0125]

Strada vgt engine has 350Nm lang and not 400Nm. For our local market, they only brought in the 350Nm. They should have added 50Nm more for the AT models. Strada has the upperhand here, from features up to pricing. Durability.... I would say same lang for both trucks

[aki0125]

Turbo with VNT for the 3.0 D4D. VNT and VGT are the same, different manufacter have different terms but it boils down to the same variable turbo.

[jut703]

so what's the verdict? keep it coming.
yes i'm looking at M/T, no A/T.

Verdict? Sa'yo dapat manggaling yan.

All we can give are facts about the cars, as well as our own personal reasons why we'd pick this car over the other.

Sa huli, ikaw pa rin yung magdedecide

[spotdog11]

Strada vgt engine has 350Nm lang and not 400Nm. For our local market, they only brought in the 350Nm. They should have added 50Nm more for the AT models. Strada has the upperhand here, from features up to pricing. Durability.... I would say same lang for both trucks

The MT strada has 400Nm, the AT strada has the 350Nm.

[aki0125]

Thanks for the clarification. Dapat yun AT models are getting the 400Nm insted of the MT to even out the power output of the two variants

[SiRbossR]

^there's a reason why the A/T models has lower torque. there's a post here regarding about it. It's the Transmission slippage as far as i can remember.

[spotdog11]

Thanks for the clarification. Dapat yun AT models are getting the 400Nm insted of the MT to even out the power output of the two variants

On some Australian reviews of the mitsubishi triton, which is the equivalent of our philippine strada, Mitsu limited the torque of the AT variant to 350Nm to protect and improve the automatic transmission's reliability.
Anyway, as an all around pickup, I would choose the strada because of its comfortable ride and its big price advantage over the hilux. However, if it will be used primarily as a utility vehicle to be driven on very rough terrain, I would go with the hilux. It would be advisable though to wait a bit for the coming Ford Ranger and have a closer look.

[niky]

You're never ever going to miss that extra torque. 0-100 times for the MT and AT Strada are nearly identical. The Strada has way more torque than grip, and once you're moving at highway speeds, the extra low-rpm torque doesn't matter at all (you'll be at high rpm already).

[trucker111]

how about the FC of both trucks?

[Ry_Tower]

^ Halos pareho lang yan. Pero kung heavy loading parati, lamang yung Hilux.

[GTi]

With 500cc less displacement, If driven conservatively, shouldn't the Strada be getting better gas mileage? You know, like with the case of the Santa Fe/Sorento CRDi?

[Ry_Tower]

With 500cc less displacement, If driven conservatively, shouldn't the Strada be getting better gas mileage? You know, like with the case of the Santa Fe/Sorento CRDi?

My ginawa na kasing trial yung C! Magazine before, I was surprised na napakalapit ng Fc nilang dalawa. But that was before the VGT. So maybe FC goes to the strada on a light to moderate loading. But if heavy loading nga, the 3.0 with VNT wil get the upper hand since the turbo spools up faster and you get less strain for the engine as well due to the natural power of a 3.0 liter engine vs. a forced induction reliant 2.5.

If stuck in traffic and many idling time, FC goes to the Strada as well.

[aki0125]

Perhaps sir you can give us more info like where do you plan to use it. Whats your normal route? Do you plan to load up the truck on a daily basis? How many kilos on a average do you intend to carry?

Had talked to a owner of a bike shop loading his brand new hilux with new bikes still inside the boxes. He had choosen hilux mainly because it has the longest bed among the japanese brands. He can maximize his trip by carrying 1 to 2 boxes more. Talked to a strada owner, he opted for strada because of its height since he lives in malabon(puede sugod sa baha). He also mentioned he doesnt carry that much load thats why he opted to get himself a strada, tama lang daw yun bed space ng strada for him for his occassional loading of his stuffs.

[aki0125]

Tried my cousins hilux before, for my normal route and loads the hilux G matic is only getting 5 to 6 km/liter. Compared a 2.5 vgt matic with the same route and load im getting a better FC with 7 to 8 km/liter. But im guessing during constant speed run the bigger engine will get a better FC.

But sir TS those are matics, im sure you will be getting alot better FC with a manual.

[niky]

Both ATs will get 5-7 km/l in traffic, from my experience. Very little difference, if at all. 4x4 and nearly two tons of truck will do that.

[sleeepy]

Question lang mga sir, pareho po ba maselan sa diesel ang dalawang to? baka ang gusto nito euro4 na diesel? plano kasi namin i destino sa probinsya yung pick up if ever

[Ry_Tower]

Question lang mga sir, pareho po ba maselan sa diesel ang dalawang to? baka ang gusto nito euro4 na diesel? plano kasi namin i destino sa probinsya yung pick up if ever

Nope, they are not. Euro 2 diesel okay lang as lng as walang water contaminant. I suggest you find a very good fuel filter sa province like bosch, OEM would also do or Vic at the least.