audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[joms]

By the way, anyone here using a JL 10w3 on a sealed enclosure ? baka pwede ma demo? =)

TY

[jhnkvn]

1. No idea
2. No idea
3. None
4. A 10" is enough for most people
5. Nope, it's actually useless

Mga pre,

May nag set-up naba sa inyo sa Starex? I plan to setup an audio-video/videoke sa starex 2012 namin.

Questions:
1) Kasya ba yung Helix G5 amp under the 1st row passenger seat? (i think hindi kasya sa drivers seat)
2) Kasya ba yung magic sing base unit (diamond) sa ilalim ng driver's seat?
3) Anyone knows any good overhead monitor 15" ?
4) Kaya na ba ng JL 10" subs (sealed) yung starex? (more for video / videoke / TV plus naman yung setup) or should I just go with the 12"
5) If I have the roof deadened, malaki ba tulong neto sa heat rejection?


Planned setup:

Head Unit : Pioneer avh-x8850
Speakers1-front : Focal ES165K (or PS165F kung more for video/videoke/TV plus lang naman)
Speakers2-rear : Focal 165AC (for videoke/TV)
Amplifier : Helix G4 or G5
Subwoofer : JL 12W3v3 (4 ohms) or maybe JL 10w3v3
TV Plus
Magicsing - Diamond
Overhead Monitor - ?
Headrest Monitor : Nakamichi x 2 sets
Deadening


Thanks mga pre.

[sientobente]

Good day po.

Ask ko lang if meron dito gumagawa dito ng lalagyanan ng tweeter, yung sa cover sa likod ng side mirror. Balak ko sana maglagay ng tweeters pero walang provision for tweeters yung kotse ko.

Thanks.

Sail pods tawag dun sir. Most car audio shops can fabricate one. It will range from 2.5-3.5k I believe.


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[jhnkvn]

What speaker brand/model I can get for a Php 13k budget for front speaker replacement of my Civic FD? May separate budget na ko for sound deadening and I'm using Joying HU. Went to Banawe last Saturday and sinuggest sakin Ground Zero Radioactive series. Can't see any english review nito kaya hirap magdecide. Before, Focal lang tinitingnan ko pero di naman ako audio expert so open ako sa ibang brand.

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1. Actually, most car speakers don't have reviews in that matter din. Di uso as the car environment itself is the biggest variable in the sound equation. Slapping Speaker A in a Starex and a Picanto will yield different results so to speak.

2. If you haven't completed the sound spectrum yet, it would be wise to reduce the speaker budget to give way to a subwoofer budget.

3. Ground Zero is a rather peculiar speaker brand. They're so-so in their marketing but they became famous due to their amplifiers first as they're one of the more well-known brands that shifted their production to China/Korea/Taiwan early on and a lot of China made ones mimic their design (and vice versa tbh).

4. Picking speakers is like picking watches, brand preference reigns supreme in many consumer thoughts.

5. For the more well-known ones, there's Morel and Focal. These two companies are famous even in the home audio industry. Then there's the giant Harman Industries with JBL and Infinity. You also see basic models of Italy's elettromedia's Hertz and Audison here. You can also go for lesser known ones: Audible Physics and Dominations of Indonesia, Flux of Singapore, and Rainbow of Germany. Or you can look at their US counterparts such as Polk Audio and Rockford Fosgate (they're known as an amp manufacturer over a speaker one mind you) while Japan has Sony and Pioneer.
- go with what your installer is comfortable with
- go with what you prefer
- just install it
- I am a biased with JBL, they make great no-fuss gears with a ton of engineering behind them at affordable prices.
- Don't look down on Pioneer, they also own high-end TAD Laboratories which sells home speakers costing $80,000 upwards

[Lzarellano]

What speaker brand/model I can get for a Php 13k budget for front speaker replacement of my Civic FD? May separate budget na ko for sound deadening and I'm using Joying HU. Went to Banawe last Saturday and sinuggest sakin Ground Zero Radioactive series. Can't see any english review nito kaya hirap magdecide. Before, Focal lang tinitingnan ko pero di naman ako audio expert so open ako sa ibang brand.

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Morel tempo 12k
DLS Reference 11-16k depende sa model
Focal access 11k
Focal 165v 15k

[desmosedici]

Pa advise lang guys: Will go to Mickey's this Saturday to swap the stock stereo on my 2016 Kia Carnival with these:

1. New 2-DIN HU (maybe the Pioneer AVH X8850BT because of Car Play)
2. New 2 way separates (thinking of the Focal P165FX)
3. An under-seat active sub

That is the plan as discussed with Mickey but then I found this hardly-used Steg 120.2 Q-mos amp at home from a failed installation about 12 years ago (that's another story). Now I'm wondering if it will do any good to use this amp for the Carnival setup or just save it for another car another day. What do you guys think? Should I use the Steg to power the fronts? Diba overkill ang 120-wpc RMS?

Note: I'm not open to the idea of a passive subwoofer (heavy and lethal in case of a collision) which is why I'll settle for a small active sub. Thanks in advance.

[romeocharlie]

guys any recommended skilled tuner in Batangas or nearby areas? thank you.

[Sleepcare]

Pa advise lang guys: Will go to Mickey's this Saturday to swap the stock stereo on my 2016 Kia Carnival with these:

1. New 2-DIN HU (maybe the Pioneer AVH X8850BT because of Car Play)
2. New 2 way separates (thinking of the Focal P165FX)
3. An under-seat active sub

That is the plan as discussed with Mickey but then I found this hardly-used Steg 120.2 Q-mos amp at home from a failed installation about 12 years ago (that's another story). Now I'm wondering if it will do any good to use this amp for the Carnival setup or just save it for another car another day. What do you guys think? Should I use the Steg to power the fronts? Diba overkill ang 120-wpc RMS?

Note: I'm not open to the idea of a passive subwoofer (heavy and lethal in case of a collision) which is why I'll settle for a small active sub. Thanks in advance.

For me hindi naman overkill yung Steg amp. But since you already have an amplifier, better to use it nalang.

If I were a Carnival or a van owner, i would also opt to change the rear speakers then power it using a 4 channel amplifier. I guess this depends sa owner ng vehicle kung ano gusto ma-achieve na sound. Experts may chime in.

[desmosedici]

For me hindi naman overkill yung Steg amp. But since you already have an amplifier, better to use it nalang.

If I were a Carnival or a van owner, i would also opt to change the rear speakers then power it using a 4 channel amplifier. I guess this depends sa owner ng vehicle kung ano gusto ma-achieve na sound. Experts may chime in.

Thanks for the advise. Will consider the 4-channel amp / 4 speaker setup. I'm sure the tuning guys will prefer not to use the rear speakers though. Mahirap yata i-tune?

[jhnkvn]

Pa advise lang guys: Will go to Mickey's this Saturday to swap the stock stereo on my 2016 Kia Carnival with these:

1. New 2-DIN HU (maybe the Pioneer AVH X8850BT because of Car Play)
2. New 2 way separates (thinking of the Focal P165FX)
3. An under-seat active sub

That is the plan as discussed with Mickey but then I found this hardly-used Steg 120.2 Q-mos amp at home from a failed installation about 12 years ago (that's another story). Now I'm wondering if it will do any good to use this amp for the Carnival setup or just save it for another car another day. What do you guys think? Should I use the Steg to power the fronts? Diba overkill ang 120-wpc RMS?

Note: I'm not open to the idea of a passive subwoofer (heavy and lethal in case of a collision) which is why I'll settle for a small active sub. Thanks in advance.

Use the STEG to power the fronts. Just remember to have the amplifier checked before installation (Mickey does it for free). No such thing as too much power according to Clarkson nag diba.

Targa pa rin ba bang for the buck? Recently inquired, parang less than 2k lang yung 6 or 6.5in separates nila. Had the X652Cs before, and wala naman akong audiophile ears pero they are good enough. Planning to upgrade another vehicle eh.

Ano pa ba ibang brands and models available at around 3 to 5k?

Firland Audio and Ryan Audio comes into mind. Still, why not just stick with Targa. They're OEM suppliers of those Sony/JVC/Pioneer component systems you see in SM you know. Just remember to shy away from raw drivers (you'll notice when they dont have much rubber surrounds) and bullet tweets -- those are LnC gears and in-car listening greatly suffers due to their dispersion characteristics.

If i may chime in, easier to tune ang passive sub than active sub. Since active sub still has "limitations" compared to passive.

For me also, mas fuller ang sound produced by passive..

If I would chime in my opinion: same lang sila. Just different ways on how to power a subwoofer. The nice thing about actives is that it already has a power supply built into the casing as well as crossover controls (all in one kung baga) while the passives needs them separately. If you want to be flexible, go for the passive since it's usually the expensive "active subs" that has extensive crossover and tuning functions. For example, you don't really see phase controls on cheap ones.

But don't underestimate powered subs. Home audio has them aplenty. Pretty sure those Php300,000/pc JL Fantoms aren't active for show.

[desmosedici]

Thanks for that jhnkvn. Point taken on the passive vs. active subs issue. Will let you guys know how it goes.

[marky2115]

Actually, di naman ako bass lover so sub is not priority. Even amplifier is not priority now. Di naman ako todo magpatugtog sa loob ng car as I want to be alert on other cars surrounding me. Just want a decent speaker which can be easily recommended by more experienced users.

Focal talaga sinesearch ko before but budget might not be enough. Since nagbasa din ako dito ng recommended installers around QC, I checked jetcar kaya nalaman ko Ground Zero. But there are two of you who recommended Morel to me so just need to check sino dealers around QC that can install like a pro. Though I checked JC car audio kahit San Juan sila pero nahihiya ako magtanong as I'm a noob sa car audio. Hehe

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[phil15]

If you just want to have an idea on speaker prices, you might want to check Mickeys website so you can narrow down your choices based on your budget. From there, do research and audition. Lastly, wag ka mahiya bro to ask/ consult installers. I am sure they are more than willing to assist you. Thanks

Actually, di naman ako bass lover so sub is not priority. Even amplifier is not priority now. Di naman ako todo magpatugtog sa loob ng car as I want to be alert on other cars surrounding me. Just want a decent speaker which can be easily recommended by more experienced users.

Focal talaga sinesearch ko before but budget might not be enough. Since nagbasa din ako dito ng recommended installers around QC, I checked jetcar kaya nalaman ko Ground Zero. But there are two of you who recommended Morel to me so just need to check sino dealers around QC that can install like a pro. Though I checked JC car audio kahit San Juan sila pero nahihiya ako magtanong as I'm a noob sa car audio. Hehe

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[Sleepcare]

Actually, di naman ako bass lover so sub is not priority. Even amplifier is not priority now. Di naman ako todo magpatugtog sa loob ng car as I want to be alert on other cars surrounding me. Just want a decent speaker which can be easily recommended by more experienced users.

Focal talaga sinesearch ko before but budget might not be enough. Since nagbasa din ako dito ng recommended installers around QC, I checked jetcar kaya nalaman ko Ground Zero. But there are two of you who recommended Morel to me so just need to check sino dealers around QC that can install like a pro. Though I checked JC car audio kahit San Juan sila pero nahihiya ako magtanong as I'm a noob sa car audio. Hehe

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Ok naman sumagot si JC but I find Mickey easier to talk to. If QC area, you may check Timsaudiogarage. As per experience, ok naman yung installs niya for me.

[ParticleX]

Targa pa rin ba bang for the buck? Recently inquired, parang less than 2k lang yung 6 or 6.5in separates nila. Had the X652Cs before, and wala naman akong audiophile ears pero they are good enough. Planning to upgrade another vehicle eh.

Ano pa ba ibang brands and models available at around 3 to 5k?

[Lzarellano]

Targa pa rin ba bang for the buck? Recently inquired, parang less than 2k lang yung 6 or 6.5in separates nila. Had the X652Cs before, and wala naman akong audiophile ears pero they are good enough. Planning to upgrade another vehicle eh.

Ano pa ba ibang brands and models available at around 3 to 5k?

pioneer jbl ryanaudio

[Sleepcare]

Targa pa rin ba bang for the buck? Recently inquired, parang less than 2k lang yung 6 or 6.5in separates nila. Had the X652Cs before, and wala naman akong audiophile ears pero they are good enough. Planning to upgrade another vehicle eh.

Ano pa ba ibang brands and models available at around 3 to 5k?

Pioneer seps. Very good yung nabili ko na entry level seps. A1605C model.

I think from Targa is still ok pero you may "go up" na unti-unti.

[dreamur]

*EQ, where is Mickey's shop? I found out that the sub on the jimny is busted.


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[EQAddict]

Its along amang rodriguez avenue.

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[dreamur]

Its along amang rodriguez avenue.

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Thanks bro.

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